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Lelouch32
12-28-2011, 03:30 AM
Cards n’Flux: Token Talk

By: Corlando

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Cards n’Flux. Yes, I know it has been a long time, but what can I say but life just gets in the way. As we head towards the new year, let us take some time to step away from Magic, hug our family, and watch some sport-KAY! Enough, back to Magic!

Ever since Innistrad hit standard, everyone wants to do tokens. This is mostly because of just the sheer amount of token producing or related cards. Tokens are just a fun way to win in general. Why spend six mana for a single Titan when you can pay five for Conqueror’s Pledge and get six soldiers? One way to see exactly how powerful tokens can be is the deck of Martin Juza, which he took to victory in the Hiroshima Grand Prix. Here is the list:

Grand Prix Hiroshima by Martin Juza

Maindeck:
8 Forest
4 Gavony Township
4 Plains
4 Razorverge Thicket
4 Sunpetal Grove

4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Blade Splicer
2 Geist-Honored Monk
4 Hero of Bladehold
2 Mikaeus, the Lunarch
4 Mirran Crusader
2 Mortarpod
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Overrun

3 Elspeth Tirel
3 Garruk Relentless

Sideboard
2 Celestial Purge
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
2 Naturalize
1 Oblivion Ring
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
2 Sword of War and Peace
2 Thrun, the Last Troll

http://casualplaneswalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Geist-Honored-Monk.jpg

Overall the deck runs rather smoothly and gets multiple threats on the field quickly. For example, as we talked last time, I know it was a while ago, this deck can drop turn two Mirran Crusaders, turn three Hero of Bladehold, and turn four Elspeth all thanks to Avacyn’s Pilgrim. However, those power cards are only the foundation. Add in the Blade Splicers and their 3/3 golems with the Geist-Honored Monk and its two 1/1 flyers and you get a deck that slowly overwhelms the board. The only real issue I have with this deck is Garruk Relentless… or as the grammatically correct of us would say Garruk the Relentless. I’ve gone on record before in saying I do not like this card and I will gladly do so again. The only thing he really does for this deck is create 2/2 wolves and if he manages to flip he will already be in sniping range.

http://s3.gatheringmagic.com/images/sets/IST/garruk.jpg

With my distaste of Garruk the Relentless known, you are all probably wondering, what would I possibly offer up in place of Garruk the Relentless? I’m glad you asked. Instead Garruk the Relentless in the deck, I would gladly put in Parallel Lives. For those who do not know, Parallel Lives is an enchantment for the same cost as Garruk the Relentless except for every token effect you activate or resolve, you get double the tokens. It is essentially Doubling Season without the counters clause and it would work awesomely in this deck. Three mana Blade Splicer for seven power instead of four, yes please. Hero of Bladehold swinging in for eleven instead of seven, yes please. An opponent just cast Day of Judgment clearing your field, well how about playing Geist-Honored Monk and get 4 1/1 flyers and a 5/5 on the field for only five mana? These are just a few of the awesomely fun token producers we have at our disposal. In fact, someone already beat us to the punch. Jonathan Job has this little Parallel Lives deck to offer:

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/cards/21865.jpg

Jonathan Job:

Lands:
5 Forest
4 Gavony Township
5 Plains
4 Razorverge Thicket
4 Sunpetal Grove

Creatures:
3 Acidic Slime
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Blade Splicer
3 Geist-Honored Monk
4 Hero of Bladehold
3 Viridian Emissary

Other Spells:
2 Beast Within
4 Day of Judgment
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mortarpod
3 Parallel Lives
4 Rampant Growth
2 Elspeth Tirel

Sideboard
3 Autumn's Veil
2 Beast Within
3 Dismember
1 Mimic Vat
2 Mortarpod
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
2 Timely Reinforcements

http://www.mtgblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/blade-splicer-full.jpg

This deck seems really solid and allows for a lot of versatility. You could just play your token plan and beat them to death with your own combination of tokens and utility creatures, but that is only half the fun. If you kill one of your opponent’s creatures, you can imprint it onto Mimic Vat, while having Parallel Lives on the field, and start doubling your Vat’s tokens. The thing I would love to see with this deck would be if someone killed a Grave Titan with Beast Within on the end of the opponent’s turn, imprinted it onto Mimic Vat. Then on the beginning of their turn they activate Mimic Vat creating a Grave Titan token… no wait 2 tokens, with haste, plus eight 2/2 zombies, then they swing with the Titans, creating eight more 2/2 Zombies. Three mana for a total of what… 44 power. Yes we are in Magical Christmas land, but that’s the thing about Magical Christmas land, it is all still possible.

http://deckbox.org/system/images/mtg/cards/207883.jpg

Oh, all this talk about tokens has really got my brain pumping, how about we build a quick deck? One card I do not believe has seen too much play in recent tournaments is a card called Cackling Counterpart. For just three mana you can put a token on the field that is a copy of a creature you control. Now this ability is rather limited. Sure it is three mana for a token but why would you not just pay an extra mana for Clone to copy your opponent’s stuff as well or possibly better Phantasmal Image for cheaper. Well, let me ask you this. What do you think would happen if you cast Cackling Counterpart on let’s say a Frost Titan… while you controlled a Parallel Lives? I would call that pretty fun and talk about mana for power. When you play three mana for twelve power, you know you have it made. Plus Cackling Counerpart has flashback, making it all the more interesting. We have the beginnings of a deck.

http://serv1.tcgimages.eu/img/cards/Innistrad/cackling_counterpart.jpg

However, we may have several big tokens on the board, but sooner or later we are going to face a boardwipe. We have to find a way to deal with the inevitability of a boardwipe. Is there a card out there that could help us fight this threat? Yes there is. Back from the Brink is an Innistrad enchantment that gives all your creatures in your graveyard flashback. Just pay your creature’s mana cost, exile them from the graveyard, and you have your creature token back ready for action. Sure it is a bit clunky at six mana, but if we run the deck as a ramp and delay deck, we can probably make it work.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=249663&type=card

So Ramp, what can we do to ramp us into big holdings of land. Rampant Growth seems like a good starting point. We can definitely use a full playset. We might also find Viridian Emissary useful so we can force them to take early damage or give us more land. After that, Primeval Titan seems like a good choice… if a bit expensive. I hate building decks with cards that are higher than ten dollars, so if you can get them great… if not we could try replacing them with a big creature of your choosing. Solemn Simularcrums would also be fun to have in this deck but again it’s one of those expensive cards so use them if you can. (I cannot wait for the day when I can actually afford some of these cards ☹).

http://www.pastimes.net/images/cards/magic/m11/primeval-titan_t200.jpg

So with ramping done, we need to move into delay. First up we need Mana Leak. Sure it might not be the best counterspell printed and it has the potential to become useless late game, but in the early game we can definitely use it. Another fun card we could use to delay the big hits could be Vapor Snag. For just one mana you can pop a problem creature back to your opponent’s hand as well as deal them a point of damage. We may also decide to pop in some other fun blue creatures to copy as we try to flesh out our curve.

http://crystal-cdn.crystalcommerce.com/photos/682072/large/vapor-snag.png

So with all that said and done, what do we call this new deck… Cackling Life, no… Parallel Counterparts, possibly… who knows, here’s the list:

Creatures:
4x Viridian Emissary
3x Frost Titan
2x Primeval Titan
3x Impaler Shrike
3x Solemn Simularcrum

Spells:
4x Rampant Growth
3x Mana Leak
3x Cackling Counterpart
3x Vapor Snap
2x Beast Within

Enchantments:
2x Back from the Brink
3x Parallel Lives

Lands: 25
4x Winterland Harbor
3x Shimmering Grotto
9x Forest
9x Island

This deck could possibly be a lot of fun. The Impaler Shrikes are really there for card draw so the option to exchange them for something like Think Twice might not be a bad idea. The goal of the deck is to delay and ramp into our big creatures using small things like Viridian Emissary to keep the bigger hits away in the first few turns. I unfortunately have not had the opportunity to playtest this kind of deck due to my college workload, but I believe the concept could be very, very fun.

And with that folks I think we will call this little article to a close but not before we go through the closing questions section:

1. What is your best token related story?

2. I know we have Parallel Lives in Jonathan Job’s deck, but why do you believe this enchantment is not seeing as much play as it probably could.

3. Would you agree that the future of token decks looks bright?

Well that is all for me everyone. Thank you all so much for stopping by. I hope you all had a Happy Holiday and hope to see you all in the new year. And as you go to hug your families tonight remember, “Etherium is Limited. Innovation is not.” This is Corlando signing out.

brianbell
12-31-2011, 07:38 AM
YAY! someone finaly wrote an article!

1: Well, to be honest, not shure. i play tokens ALOT, mostly fungus, so I've had quite a few unearthly moments. probably the most epic was one time when i had a 58/58 mycoloth pumping out 216 tokens a turn (2 doubling season), but i also had a 20/20 mycoloth pumping out 64 tokens a turn. but the best thing was that i had a conspiracy (i had chosen 'fungus'), a sporesower thallid, and a sporoloth anciet. that means each upkeep each token would create 8 more tokens. unfortuneately, the opponent had a ghostly prison. so i waited for 5 turns. on that fifth turn, my calculator crashed, i drew a gleeful sabotage, laid down a coat of arms, and my opponent scampered off to a corner, wimpering.

2: probably because it costs 4, and most token producing cards in standard cost 3 or less, so when you drop it, you probably have emptied your hand of token producers. also, in many cases, parrallel lives is just overkill. and if it's not necisary, people wont use it.

3: in standard? too soon to tell. with the release of dark ascension, maybe. i hope so -- i've always had a soft spot for tokens :) but with ratchet bomb ready to stomp all over token decks' hopes and dreams, i'm not sure they'll be truly ridiculous until scars rotates.

I like the idea of your deck. cackling counterpart and back from the brink are both INSANE with parralel lives. but i dont think it'll work too well if those are the only token generators. i would add white for other token generators.

sethbodine
12-31-2011, 07:58 AM
1)Most likely when what follows happened: It was one of my opponents turns, and on the turn before I had activated my Garruk, Primal Hunter's ultimate ability for a whole bunch of wurm tokens. My opponent Black Sun's Zeniths for 6, and everything dies. At the end of that turn, I Fresh Meat for a total of approximately 60 3/3 beast tokens (I had a Parallel Lives on the board (It is one of my favorite cards from the Innistrad block so far)). With no one else having any creatures or any more board removal, I crushed all three of my opponents in one swift stroke. That was fun.

2)I don't really know for sure. It may not be as good as Doubling Season, but it is definitely a really powerful card in standard right now. With no Earthquake or Wrath of God around anymore, token decks aren't quite as vulnerable as they used to be. Granted there are still a number of board wipers left, but not as many as there used to be. Plus, with all the creatures that make tokens in standard right now, it can just slam people into the ground. I personally have had great success using it in congruence with Myr Battlesphere and Myr Propagator for the win. Cards like Myr Propagator just aren't very useful for the most part unless you can use something like Parallel Lives to double your output. Anyway, if I had to hazard a guess as to why it is not seeing play as much, it would probably be that people are simply to distracted with human tribal and U/B zombie decks to do any work with good old fashioned token decks right now. Once everybody finishes getting to know the new set, I think that they may realize the true power of this card.

3) To put it simply: yes.

me15159
01-02-2012, 02:02 PM
i had a mycoloth that was around 20/20 with 2 doubling seasons and 3 awakening zones with a leyline of vitality out so every turn i was gaining about 70 life the catch is my oponate used the -1/-1 curse on me so i didnt keep any of my poor little tokens but i was gaining enough life i didnt care

personally i think most of the people that are going to run a token deck are playing modern or legacy so why not use doubling season it only 1 more mana i think if a token deck makes it through the ptqs and gets preety far in the pro tour using parellel lives the card will see alot more play but unfortunately these days thats the trend i see people prefer to copy rather than invent ideas of their own

as far as the future of token decks i think theres a decent one out there personlly im running a white soldier token deck that i want to splash green in just for doubling season or parellel lives i think with elspeth it would be pretty nasty i see potential for them but like i said someone is going to have prove them as a serious contender for them really explode in popularity

SavajCabbaj
01-10-2012, 03:03 PM
1. What is your best token related story?
Can't really say for sure, I haven't faced a seriously competitive token deck in standard. Tokens don't have enough tempo to be viable on their own against our current competitive meta, and the only time I've seen them work really well was as a supplementary role to a greater strategy (Doomed Traveler to survive a DoJ and swing at an empty board, Moorland Haunt to remove non-recursive threats from the GY to add more bodies to the field, etc.)

Outside of standard, though, I do run Parallel Lives in my Eldrazi Spawn deck, so that could be the answer. It's purely casual due to the slow curve and dependency on an initial mana boost to get ahead of the curve through spawn, but it does do some very fun tricks for multi-player games. Splinter Twin on Kozilek's Predator or Emrakul's Hatcher without Parallel Lives is just plain brutal. With PL it's brutal^brutal :)

Or, perhaps this one could be the answer to the question ;P
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=208320

2. I know we have Parallel Lives in Jonathan Job’s deck, but why do you believe this enchantment is not seeing as much play as it probably could.
For the same reason a question 1. Parallel Lives is simply too slow unless you're running recursive token generators, which are currently very circumstantial (like Mimic Vat). If I had a choice between T4 Parallel Lives and any other viable T4 drop (Hero, Simulacrum, etc) I'd go with the other. I want an immediate boost to my tempo, especially on a crucial 4-drop.

3. Would you agree that the future of token decks looks bright?
I think the set-up is there for Tokens to get a huge push in Standard. It might not happen in Innistrad, but I suspect M13 will be the perfect environment to reinvent the wheel with Tokens.

randombum
01-13-2012, 12:09 PM
aprox 150 elf tokens, and 50 7/7 elemental tokens, coat of arms and Nissa (i got most of the elves with 3 elvish promenades, and i got the elementals with voice of the woods) and no i wasn't just sitting there, i actually won as fast as i could

there simply aren't enough good token options in standard, especially in green.

yes, looking at the white dark ascension spoilers, i think human tokens will show up as an aggro deck type.



btw you inspired me to make this deck, (http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=281272) can you give me any advice to improve it without adding expensive cards?

SavajCabbaj
01-18-2012, 06:50 PM
Pictures are actually pleasant source of teaching instead of passage, its my knowledge, what would you say?

What? I can't here you over all this spam!??!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

colby8910
01-18-2012, 07:02 PM
Where Do I Get Mana On Deck Builder????